Anti-retroviral Medication

I have watched a lot of scientifically inaccurate documents in my time, and I have noticed that they all have one thing in common when it comes to trying to convince the viewer of the most ridiculous things. Rather than explaining their theories slowly and in-depth, they instead try and throw as much crap as they can at the screen in the hopes that you won't see the holes in their arguments. These parts of the documentaries are also prime for quote mines, and often lack vital information required for the viewer to make an informed decision. There is no better example of this tactic being used than in the documentary 'House of Numbers' which tries to convince you that anti-retroviral medications are useless, and are actually the real cause of AIDS-like symptoms.

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Around the 1 hour 10 minute mark, the movie begins to talk about HIV medication and, in particular, one called azidothymidine (AZT). The drug is a nucleoside analog reverse-transcriptase inhibitor and was the first U.S. government-approved treatment for HIV. It works by incorporating itself into the growing DNA strand synthesised by reverse transcriptase preventing further extension. Although AZT does have a high affinity for reverse transcriptase, it can also inhibit polyerase - leading to some particularly nasty side effects. Even though nowadays these side effects are well documented and understood, the documentary claims that it is in fact AZT that is responsible for AIDS-like symptoms. It even goes as far as to say that the majority of AIDS cases in the U.S. are caused by people reacting badly to the medication. This temporally makes no sense, as how can a people be suffering from a syndrome caused by a drug before the drug was prescribed for the virus causing the syndrome? The documentary tries to explain this by saying that originally people were suffering for AIDS related illnesses as a result of promiscuous gay sex and using the recreational drug Poppers. I guess it’s a massive coincidence that poppers, lots of gay sex, and ATZ all have the exact same side effects. The movie with it’s quick editing hopes that you don't spend too much time thinking about this, and tries to pin the blame solely on HIV drugs (specifically AZT).

The documentary begins to show you clips of people and doctors talking about HIV medications, but the clips are too short and don’t go into detail. For example, there is a series of clips featuring Steve and Cheryl Nagel talking about their daughter. They say that she was diagnosed when she was a child and that she reacted badly to AZT she was prescribed. They later go on to say that they removed her from the drug and that she is now doing well. What we are not told however is whether or not she was misdiagnosed, or if she is now on other antiretroviral medication or her current state of health. It is simply left up to the viewer’s imagination. There is also a montage of clips featuring doctors and medical professionals saying that these drugs do have side effects. The strange thing about these clips is that they are set up like this is a big reveal; That finally doctors are admitting that the drugs can potentially cause harm, and that this document has the scoop. In reality, however, doctors are open about the potential dangers and the long term health effects these drugs will have.

The documentary also appears to be time locked in the late 80s when AZT mono therapy was the only treatment available. At this time, HIV and AZT were not properly understood, and the drug was given in too high a dosage. Patients had to take the medication every 4 hours around the clock, and suffered serious side effects as a result. It was not until 1989 that it was discovered that lower doses were as effective as higher ones and resulted in significantly fewer side effects. Still the life expectancy of someone diagnosed with AIDS at this time was relatively short, as they often contracted a number of opportunistic infections or their HIV infection became resistant to the treatment. AIDS related deaths soared until the mid 90s with the introduction of highly active antiretroviral therapy (HAART) – also known as the AIDS cocktail. it consists of a combination of at least three antiretroviral furs to suppresses HIV replication and the progression to AIDS. Since its introduction there has been a sharp reduction in death and suffering. AIDS related deaths in America peaked in 1995, with 41,699 deaths and decreased to 40,629 in 1994. In 1996 the numbers of AIDS related deaths drastically decreased because of the introduction of the AIDS cocktails, to 31,130 and then to 16,685 in 1997. These numbers are in stark contrast to what the documentary is trying to portray. If these drugs were as deadly as the documentary is saying, then we would not see such a sharp decrease in AIDS related deaths.

To give the documentary some credit, it does acknowledge the existence of the AIDS cocktails, but it introduces it in a very underhanded way. It says that they often contain AZT, but refers to it as a chemotherapy drug – even though it was never approved for that purpose. This is the equivalent of me introducing Viagra as medication for hypertension and angina. It’s obviously been set up this way to scare the viewer, because most of us are aware of chemotherapy and it’s nasty side effects. Not once are we told about the drop in mortality after introduction of the cocktail – instead the documentary blurs the lines between past and present therapies to convince the viewer that nothing much has changed over the past 30 years.

This documentary is a very real threat to public health and there is no doubt in my mind that many will have suffered after following it’s misguided advice.

About Myles Power (715 Articles)
My name is Myles Power, and I run the educational YouTube channel, powerm1985. I spend what little free time I have sharing my love of SCIENCE! through home experiments, visiting sites of scientific interest, and angrily ranting at pseudoscience proponents. I am also one of the founding members of the podcast 'The League of Nerds' - which I co-host with James from 'The History of Infection'.

16 Comments on Anti-retroviral Medication

  1. Hi. I think you might made a typo in this part with dates: “AIDS related deaths in America peaked in 1995, with 41,699 deaths and decreased to 40,629 in 1994.”
    And I’m still waiting for rest of debunking house of numbers videos.

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  2. Have you read about the Nagel’s last big public stunt? The daughter has given birth to a son, not telling the Doctors she was HIV positive. Take a wild guess what happened next… Poor kid.

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  3. Johnson Tagarisa // April 18, 2014 at 9:32 pm // Reply

    You try to explain a lot of medical terms and conditions ad if you understand well the primary intentions of the documentary. The primary purpose of the documentary is to highlight the issue of simple questions that seem not to receive the attention they deserve from the AIDS establishment. You use scare tactics instead of logic. You better visit your statistics. A lot of people who have refused to take ARVs are living happy normal lives, not actually suffering as you state in your last paragraph. People are simply saying there is something really bad about the HIV research. Every tenet of the theory is questionable, now that is the epitome of bad science.

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    • Johnson, what “simple questions” are highlighted in the documentary that have not been answered over and over, ad nauseam?

      HoN’s supporters love to whine about the “unanswered questions” the film supposedly raises, but when you try to pin them down on what exactly those questions might be, they seem unable to specify what it is they want to know. Because in truth denialists don’t want to know. If they did, they wouldn’t be denialists.

      The problem isn’t that the denialists have not been answered – rather it’s that their “questions” are rhetorical rather than genuine attempts to understand, and they refuse to listen to any responses. And it’s a waste of time trying to explain stuff to people who are putting so much effort into trying to block out reality.

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  4. Johnson Tagarisa // April 18, 2014 at 9:34 pm // Reply

    You try to explain a lot of medical terms and conditions as if you understand well the primary intentions of the documentary. The primary purpose of the documentary is to highlight the issue of simple questions that seem not to receive the attention they deserve from the AIDS establishment. You use scare tactics instead of logic. You better visit your statistics. A lot of people who have refused to take ARVs are living happy normal lives, not actually suffering as you state in your last paragraph. People are simply saying there is something really bad about the HIV research. Every tenet of the theory is questionable, now that is the epitome of bad science.

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  5. Could the decrease in deaths be as a result to the lessen toxicity of the medication? Maybe it was the AZT that was causing the very high number of deaths anyway. Also, while AZT was never approved for chemotherapy, the reason being was because it was deemed TOO toxic. It killed so many cells that it was even shown to be intolerable for people who had cancer. Also, the recreational drugs called ‘poppers’ are carcinogenic and can have harmful effects throughout your body similar to AZT.

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    • Max, the standard treatment between 1990 and 1995 was AZT monotherapy, 600 mg per day. From 1996 on the standard treatment was triple combination therapy consisting of AZT 600 mg a day plus 3TC (usually) and either a protease inhibitor or nevirapine. Can you explain how adding two or more other drugs (that have significant side effects of their own) to 600 mg a day of AZT somehow makes AZT less toxic?

      The reason why AZT was never approved for cancer chemotherapy was not that it was “too toxic” for that use. That is simply a blatant lie made up by Duesberg, and dishonestly attributed to the scientists who first synthesised the compound. The denialists know this is a lie, but they continue to propagate it. Please stop it.

      http://davidcrowe.ca/SciHealthEnv/Beltz-AZT.html

      The reason AZT was never used as a cancer chemotherapy was in fact the opposite – that it was ineffective in inhibiting the division of rapidly growing cells, and thus useless as a cancer chemotherapy.

      Misusing poppers can have a number of health consquences, but they do not cause AIDS or anything that looks remotely like AIDS.

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      • Max, the standard treatment between 1990 and 1995 was AZT monotherapy, 600 mg per day.

        Standard dose before 1996 was 1.5 g per day (Fis]hl NEJM 1987).

        From 1996 on the standard treatment was triple combination therapy consisting of AZT 600 mg a day plus 3TC (usually) and either a protease inhibitor or nevirapine. Can you explain how adding two or more other drugs (that have significant side effects of their own) to 600 mg a day of AZT somehow makes AZT less toxic?

        Because the AZT dose was reduced 3-fold (see bove).

        The reason why AZT was never approved for cancer chemotherapy was not that it was “too toxic” for that use.

        What is your refrence for this quote, “to toxic”?

        That is simply a blatant lie made up by Duesberg

        What is your source that Duesberg “made up this blatant lie”?

        , and dishonestly attributed to the scientists who first synthesised the compound. The denialists know this is a lie, but they continue to propagate it. Please stop it.
        http://davidcrowe.ca/SciHealthEnv/Beltz-AZT.html

        How am I to “stop” D. Crowe?

        The reason AZT was never used as a cancer chemotherapy was in fact the opposite – that it was ineffective in inhibiting the division of rapidly growing cells, and thus useless as a cancer chemotherapy.

        Where is the reference for this? Did Horwitz, who invented AZT in 1964 for chemotherapy say this?

        Misusing poppers can have a number of health consquences, but they do not cause AIDS or anything that looks remotely like AIDS.

        Have you read the NIH monograph “Health hazards of nitrite inhalants” by Haverkos and Drotman? If you had, you would not have written what you just did.

        Looking forward to your responses,

        Max

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      • [Reply to Max D on 05/05/2014 at 6:06 am]

        1. “Standard dose before 1996 was 1.5 g per day (Fischl NEJM 1987).”

        That is simply not true, Max. AZT was first approved by the FDA for the treatment of AIDS and ARC on 19th March 1987. The approved dose was 200 mg every four hours, ie 1000 or 1200 mg per day, depending on whether you woke up in the middle of the night for a dose.
        http://tinyurl.com/mbyp2gl

        The FDA-approved dose was halved to 100 mg every four hours (total 500-600 mg per day) on 16th January 1990 – almost six years before the first protease inhibitor (saquinavir) came on to the market in December 1995 making triple combination therapies possible.
        http://articles.latimes.com/1990-01-16/news/mn-316_1_azt-dose

        2. “What is your reference for this quote, “too toxic”?

        I quoted it from your own post above.

        3. “What is your source that Duesberg ‘made up this blatant lie’?”

        Duesberg P: Inventing the AIDS Virus; Regenery Publishing 1997 ISBN 978-0-89526-399-5. p309

        Duesberg wrote: “However, when [Horwitz] tested the compound on cancer-ridden mice, it failed to cure the cancer. (17) Horwitz was so disappointed he never bothered publishing the experiment and eventually abandoned that line of research. The drug must have killed the tumors, which contain dividing cells, but it so effectively destroyed healthy growing tissues that the mice died of the extreme toxicity. (18)”

        4. “How am I to stop D. Crowe?”

        You’re just being silly and obtuse now, Max. I’m not asking you to stop David Crowe. I’m asking you not to propagate lies yourself.

        5. “’The reason AZT was never used as a cancer chemotherapy was in fact the opposite – that it was ineffective in inhibiting the division of rapidly growing cells, and thus useless as a cancer chemotherapy.’ Where is the reference for this?”

        Read the letter from Beltz to David Crowe that I linked for you.

        6. “Have you read the NIH monograph “Health hazards of nitrite inhalants” by Haverkos and Drotman?”

        Yes, I have. It was published more than a quarter of a century ago in 1988 when there was a lot of interest in an apparent epidemiological relationship between inhaled nitrite use and the development of Kaposi’s sarcoma among gay men with HIV infection. But as the monograph itself says, “the mechanism of action of nitrites as a cofactor in KS, if any, has yet to be elucidated.” (see page vii of the preface)

        At the time there was also an alternative competing hypothesis that a sexually transmissible co-factor might better explain the epidemiology of KS among people with HIV infection than the nitrite hypothesis. But until the discovery of HHV8 in 1994, both hypotheses were considered as possibilities.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HHV-8

        But once you control for HIV and HHV-8 infections, the apparent correlation between nitrite use and KS disappears. It is a classic example of a confounding variable: nitrites were and are used as sexual stimulants in the community with high prevalence of both sexually transmitted viruses.

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  6. WANKER ! FUCK OFF ! HIV IS A LIE!

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  7. Brian Carter // April 19, 2014 at 6:08 pm // Reply

    Ah.. But in reality, nothing has changed in 30 years contrary to what Mr. Powers would like to think. The state of HIV today is no different.. It’s still a go-nowhere-do nothing ugly trip down the rabbit hole where HIV always causes AIDS, AIDS always leads to death and your friendly neighborhood infectious disease specialists in white coats has all the answers. It’s not difficult to break free of 30 years of stupidity. Ask yourself why you haven’t done so.

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    • Anonymous // July 2, 2019 at 6:10 pm // Reply

      As someone who was on deaths door with HIV infection a few years ago I can confirm that without triple combination therapy I would be dead. I only wished I had got tested and treated sooner as the longer you leave it, the more your immune system is destroyed, the less chances of full recovery. AIDS denialism is as bonkers as flat earthers but 100 times more dangerous. Its interesting this conspiracy started in a place where there is no real government funded health system, thus giving some creedence to the greedy pharma theory. However this is blown out of the water when you have systems like the NHS who give these drugs out for free, not only to stop people getting sick, but in an attempt to constrain the virus. Brilliant work Myles, hope to attend one of your roadshows.

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    • As you might imagine, the AIDS denialism movement attracts some pretty strange and fucked-up individuals. But Clark Baker, the guy who runs the omsj.org blog makes his fellow AIDS denialist nutters seem relatively sane by comparison. If you read his blog it’s not hard to see where his psychological problems originate from:

      “The homosexual agenda is a pervasive, militant plan that seeks vast changes in American society. By undermining cultural norms, redefining the family and attacking time-honored traditions and religious teachings, the movement’s ultimate goal is societal acceptance of homosexuality as normal behavior and a normal life choice. ”

      “It is a change that would not only negatively impact military personnel but would also signal a dramatic erosion of American values by a group intent on bending society to accommodate them, namely, homosexual activists.”

      http://www.omsj.org/blogs/tolerance-or-gay-propaganda

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